Kirby Cane and Ellingham Parish Councils Since 1894 until recent times


(There is an overlap between the histories of Kirby Cane Charity and Ellingham United Charities, particularly since the two villages joined under one Parish Council. Some of the present day controversial issues relating to Kirby Cane Charity will be found in the stories of Ellingham United Charities and Kirby Cane and Ellingham Parish Council.)

Ellingham and Kirby Cane Parish Councils 1894 to recent times:

Ellingham Parish Council

The first Parish Council meeting for Ellingham was called by the Overseers of Ellingham whose powers were now to shift to the new council. This was a new approach to local government brought about by the Local Government Act of 1894. The meeting was held at the school in Ellingham at 7.30 p.m. on Tuesday 4th December 1894. This meeting was conducted, perhaps unsurprisingly, by Mr Henry Smith of Ellingham Hall who set about giving details of those nominated as the first Ellingham Parish Councillors:

1. Frederick Barber

2. Frederick Brown

3. Henry Eggott

4. Rev. William Day French

5. Frederick Jones

6. John Thrower

7. Henry Youngman

After a fifteen minutes pause in proceedings to allow for any other nominations, Mr Smith declared these people; “…duly elected as Parish Councillors for the Parish of Ellingham.”

At the next meeting of the Ellingham Parish Council, called for just over a week later on Thursday 13th December 1894, Henry Youngman was elected Chairman; declarations of acceptance of office were sworn by the councillors; Thomas Brown was appointed clerk to the council on a salary of £2 yearly; Messrs Gurney and Co of Bungay were appointed treasurers for the council; Rev. Davey and Frederick Jones were appointed trustees; meeting dates for 1895 were arranged; agreed that 10 cwt of coals be given to the poor of Ellingham and that Mr Youngman would hand out the coal tickets.

Ellingham Parish Council was underway.Having said this little is recorded in the minute book about the work being carried out by the council until the matter of control of the Ellingham charities takes prime place for a number of years.



The first Parish Councils were elected on an annual basis in April and the practice continued until the Parish Councillors (Tenure of Office) Act 1899 changed this to three years. So from 15 April 1901 our local Parish Councillors were elected for a term of three years. Nowadays the term is four years.

In 1895 it is again recorded that half a ton of coal be given to the poor of Ellingham, which seems to confirm that the charity funds were available to the Parish Council. Other than that there is only the annual appointment of village constables and overseers being noted.

However, on March 8th 1915 a resolution was passed by the councillors present; “That the new Scheme for the administration of the Parish Charities should be applied for.” On 14th February 1916 a letter was written by the Parish Council to the Charity Commissioners asking them to postpone the introduction of a new Scheme for the charities until the new Rector arrives; Rev. Harold Holmes Blair now vacating the post. How innocent they were, but how could they have known how the new Rector, Rev. John Thomas Hendley, would repay this deference. In December of 1916 the Parish Council postponed any decision on the new Scheme until after a Parish Meeting. So in February 1917 we see a decision made; “The Parish Council in conjunction with the Parish Meeting agreed to oppose the Scheme of the Charity Commissioners.” Furthermore, at the same meeting the Councillors decided unanimously to take over the Ellingham Charities and to appoint their own trustees.

In March 1917 the Parish Council decided; “… that the Parish Council do not feel inclined to call any more meetings until the Parishioners find out what the money was left for.” In both April and May 1917 the Parish Council declares its strong opposition to the Town Lands being divided up.

From a very quiet start in 1894 with very little indeed being recorded in the Parish Council minutes, in the short space of time between 1915 and 1917, the charities of Ellingham have dominated every Parish Council meeting. Now in 1917 the Councillors flex their muscles a little more by claiming the Packard’s Charity money out of a farm in the occupation of a Mr Girling. Also at the same meeting they instruct; “The people’s warden Mr Snowling pays no more church bills and that they be forwarded to the Rector.”

Rev Blair was certainly not done with matters either for in 1917 we see him writing to the Charity Commissioners very much in favour of the Parish Council and Parish Meetings that the Town Lands belonged to the village and that church records confirmed this:

Quite clearly, the 1894 Act was a major milestone in the local government for the whole of the country and the consequences for Kirby cane and Ellingham are still being felt today. The Act transferred the powers that had for centuries been exercised by the church, vestry and overseers into the hands of the newly elected councillors. The powers were quite extensive and included:

The Local Government Act 1894 states at Section 6:

6.  Transfer of certain powers of vestry and other authorities to parish council.

(1) Upon the parish council of a rural parish coming into office, there shall be transferred to that council:—

(a) The powers, duties, and liabilities of the vestry of the parish except:

(i) so far as relates to the affairs of the church or to ecclesiastical charities; and

(ii) any power, duty, or liability transferred by this Act from the vestry to any other authority:

(b)The powers, duties, and liabilities of the churchwardens of the parish, except so far as they relate to the affairs of the church or to charities, or are powers and duties of overseers

(c)The powers, duties, and liabilities of the overseers or of the churchwardens and overseers of the parish with respect to

(i). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F2

(ii)The provision of parish books . . . F3 or matters relating thereto; and

(iii)The holding or management of parish property, not being property relating to affairs of the church or held for an ecclesiastical charity, and the holding or management of village greens, or of allotments, whether for recreation grounds or for gardens or otherwise for the benefit of the inhabitants or any of them;

Paul Clayden (p173 The Parish Councillors Guide – Shaw and Sons 2009) puts the 1894 Act into modern parlance:

“Parish property includes old parish workhouses and cottages provided by the overseers before the establishment of boards of guardians under the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834; lands acquired for the employment of the poor; vestry rooms; parochial offices; land allotted under an inclosure award to be used as village greens; recreation grounds, field gardens, or otherwise for the benefit of inhabitants. Property formerly held by the board of guardians was transferred to the parish council by section 115 of the Local Government Act 1929.”

“The legal interest in all property which was formerly vested either in the overseers or in the churchwardens and overseers of the parish, other than property connected with the affairs of the church or held for an ecclesiastical charity, is vested in the parish council, subject to all trusts and liabilities affecting the same.”

So it can be seen that, as there are only very small ecclesiastical monetary endowments in the village charities, there are no reasons to suppose that the legal transfer of lands and investments held by Ellingham and Kirby Cane churchwardens and overseers of the poor were not transferred by the 1894 Act to the new Parish Council.

To see the consequences of this for the present day villages we need to identify first what property had been vested in the overseers and/or the churchwardens prior to the 1894 Act. This comprised of:

  1. Land bequeathed to the villagers in times past. (See map)
  2. Land given for the use of the poor at the time of the enclosures of the commons; early 1800’s (See map)
  3. Investments which comprise of monies left by benefactors in the past and the proceeds of land and property sales from 1 above.

What is this land and what are the investments?

  1. The land is quite easily identified from the tithe maps and the Land Registry: there are 67 acres of which 25 acres are land that was given at the time of the enclosures.
  2. The investments are a little more difficult to identify but are in the region of £70,000 to £80,000.

What does this mean for the present Parish Council and the two charities involved; Kirby Cane Charity and Ellingham United Charities?

There are two separate issues for discussion here:

  1. Who has the legal title to the lands and investments?
  2.  The management of the investments and the capital.

1. Who has the legal title to the lands and investments?

All of the evidence from the historic record would seem to show that no land was ever left for ecclesiastical purposes. Other than very minor monetary bequests, there were no ecclesiastical charities in the two villages. This was confirmed by the Charity Commissioners in the early 1900’s.

(Note: By the terms of the 1918 Scheme of Governance of the Ellingham United Charities the Charity Commissioners identified land and property from the Ellingham Charities which it called the Estate Branch and gave a half share (moiety) of the income from this to Ellingham Church. This action was very strongly contested by the then Parish Council (see below) but, under the threat of legal action from the then Rector, they seem eventually to have accepted the position. This liability upon the Ellingham United Charities does not affect the legal title to the lands and property of the Estate Branch.)

The evidence is therefore that; “The legal interest in all property which was formerly vested either in the overseers or in the churchwardens and overseers of the parish, other than property connected with the affairs of the church or held for an ecclesiastical charity, is vested in the parish council, subject to all trusts and liabilities affecting the same.”

2. The management of the investments and the capital.

The phrase underlined above ensures that the wishes of the original benefactors concerning the distribution of income to the “poor”, or whatever good cause, will be a management requirement upon the trustees of the property involved. These days it is possible for the trustees to vary these wishes by changing the Scheme of Management with the Charity Commissioners.

As was seen above, the parish property in the form of land is in two parts; that given by benefactors and that awarded by the Enclosures Acts. (The Sand and Gravel Charity was given to the Parish Council in the 1900’s by a local benefactor.  For ease of explanation this is left out here.)

The income from the land given by benefactors was; “…subject to all trusts and liabilities affecting the same.” However, the land awarded by the Enclosure Acts (Poor’s Allotment) was specifically for the benefit of the landless classes and subject to the Allotments Act 1882. The income from these “Poor’s Allotments” has for many decades been incorporated into the Schemes of Management of both sets of charities and made; “… subject to all trusts and liabilities affecting the same.”

During the last year, 2013 we have seen both the Ellingham United Charity trustees and the Kirby Cane Charity trustees change the Schemes of Governance for those charities. ( April 2014: We now know that Kirby Cane Charity was only allowed to change a Clause within their Scheme and that Ellingham United Charity had their Scheme rejected and seem to be having serious issues with the Charity Commissioners.) The attempted new Schemes of Governance are at variance with democratic procedures having been drafted and applied for in utmost secret by the trustees of the two charities with no attempt to involve villagers or the Parish Council. The previous Scheme for Ellingham United Charities required agreement of the Parish Council and the Charity Commissioners also looked at objections from individuals. The effect of these new Schemes of Governance would be for the trustees to strengthen their hold on the assets and, particularly in the case of Ellingham United Charities, to give the church a greater share of the income at the expense of the benefit of the village. Both sets of trustees have tried to take powers to sell off capital assets or dissolve the charity that would, if used, destroy the charities forever. No account has been taken by the trustees that the land and assets are managed by them NOT owned by them.

In the case of Kirby Cane there is a very small endowment specifically relating to the church and religious education. Prior to the changes to the Scheme of Governance made in 2013 this was set at 4.5% of net income every year. No other lands and investments relate to the church or other religious parties. We must wonder why the trustees saw a need to remove this Clause relating to the church.

The “Poor’s Allotments” marked with a green dot on the map below is that land, 25 acres, which was allocated at the time of the enclosures in the early 1800’s. It is land, 5 acres Kirby Cane and 20 acres Ellingham, that there can be no doubt about it belonging to the parishes; it is parish property.

Links that provide further evidence and information:

Matters related to use of “Poor’s Allotments”:

  • Around100 metres further down Newgate Lane past the present allotment site is a field of 5 acres. This field is known as “Poor’s Allotment”. It was land given to the “poor” of Kirby Cane in the early 1800’s to compensate for the loss of Common Land. This “Poor’s Allotment” was vested in the “parochial authorities” for the benefit of the poor.
  • Similarly, Ellingham has nearly 20 acres of such land called the “Poor’s Allotment” given in the early 1800’s to compensate for the loss of Common Land. This land lies down past Butterfly Corner. Again the land was vested in the “parochial authorities” for the benefit of the poor. (See * below)

The Parish Council is now, and has been since 1894, in the position of being the “parochial authorities” and as such has a duty of management of this land. This duty has for many years been entrusted to the trustees of both Ellingham United Charities and Kirby Cane Charity. There is evidence however in the parish record that, when the trustees of EUC were deemed not to be managing the land properly, the Parish Council took back control of the land and indeed the charity itself. Is this what the present Parish Council should be doing?

Map for Poor's Allotments

Now back to the story:

Other than the major row over the charities mentioned above and elsewhere, we see very little of note in the first minute book other than elections and the names of those elected. Constables were appointed and in 1899 a precept of £5 was set. Meetings were held in the “school room”.

Here follows a selection of more interesting items taken from a trawl of the minute books:

Affordable housing is first mentioned in 1923 when a letter is written from the Parish Council to Lt Col H L Smith. This outlined the need for more affordable housing in the village and cited the cases of four young men and their families who were in danger of becoming homeless. “None of these young men can pay fancy rents but they are all anxious to snap up any cottage of a reasonable rent that may be vacant/new cottage of a reasonable rent would meet their need.”

Ellingham United Charities accounts are reported annually and trustees appointed.

Coronations exercised the Parish Council:

1937 was the year of the coronation of George VI and the Parish Council agreed that “testaments” be given to all the children.

The 1953 coronation of Elizabeth II became a major item for discussion at a number of council meetings. The ideas included holding a party, having an evening concert and souvenirs for the children. Eventually it was decided that there should be souvenir spoons for each child, tea in the school, sports on the Rectory Meadow and prizes for the best dressed house and fancy dress parade winners. Twenty-five years later in March 1977, in the Queens silver jubilee year, it was decided to plant trees on the playing field, to have a buffet tea and to give crowns to the children.

The 1953 coronation was also marked by the purchase of a seat which was to be sited outside the memorial hall. There were plans to re-site the seat to the playing field in 1972 but the Women’s Institute objected. These objections were eventually over-ruled and in 1974 the seat was moved. The saga ends in 1976 with a letter to the council from the WI “regretting the destruction of the seat at the playing field”.

Playing Field: A joint meeting of Kirby Cane Parish Council and Ellingham Parish Council was held in April 1939 regarding a site for a playing field that had been put forward by the Town Planning Officer in Norwich. The site was agreed but we are not told where it was. Obviously nothing was done at this time for in 1967 there is a discussion at the council meeting about hiring the Rectory Meadow as a playing field for the children. It was decided to ask the football club to hire it for their use instead. Staying with the football club; it was suggested in May 1978 that the field next to the playing field be used for the football club. However, the local farmer refused to give up the land. It would seem that this is the land managed by the trustees of Ellingham United Charities (EUC).

By 1968 there was a groundswell of parents asking for a playing field for the children. The allotments site was proposed for this purpose and the three remaining allotment holders were informed. It was noted that they were entitled to a years notice. A number of alternative sites were put forward at a public meeting held in July 1968 and owners were contacted. However, in August 1968, so few people turned up that it was decided not to do anything more until a final meeting could be called in November of that year.

At the November it was agreed that the allotment field be leased from the trustees of EUC and a small committee was set up to get the process underway. Final agreement with the trustees came in March 1969 with an initial rent of £1 and £5 per annum for the next four years. The lease was extended to 21 years in 1970 and planning permission and grants obtained. By June 1971 all was well enough in hand for a formal report to be made to the council concerning rules, committee make up, objects, accounts, insurance and meeting frequency.

The Second World War does not get a mention at all in the minute books other than a brief note that there was no agreement to set up a “forces fund”.

School Managers (Governors nowadays) have been appointed regularly by the Parish Council up to recent times.

In the early 1980’s the coming of the village by-pass saw meetings held between Ellingham PC, Kirby Cane PC and Broome PC. The blue/green route, as proposed by Norfolk County Council, was agreed to.

There was talk in the 1980’s of having a new village hall but this was soon dropped because of the problems of getting sufficient funds.

The most recent of the “Minute Books”, where minutes were handwritten, contained a rolling agenda at the back which served as an aide memoir for the clerk. This was very useful in-as-much as it protected the agenda of the Parish Council ensuring that all responsibilities were met and that items were not lost. Unfortunately, present day systems do not seem to provide that protection.

The rolling agenda for Ellingham PC included:

  • Appointment of trustees to the EUC: This was on the basis of one trustee appointed for  a four year term every year on a rolling programme.
  • Appointment of trustees to the Sand and Gravel Charity on the same basis as above.
  • Appointments to the Planning Committee.
  • Appointing a School Manager.
  • Reviews of funding towards; Kirby Cane Memorial Hall and Ellingham PCC.
  • The precept.

Parish Land

Allotment for the poor of Ellingham 1806

These details are taken, verbatim, from the Enclosure Awards maps and details held at the Norfolk Record Office in Norwich. (DN ITA 710) It should be remembered that the Enclosure Award is in effect the deed of ownership.

And we the said Commissioners do hereby assign set out and attest to the Right Honourable Harbord Lord Suffield Lord of the Manor of Stockton with the Soke William Johnson Lord of the Manor of Ellingham Nevells and the Lord of the said respective Manors for the time being Roger Hall clerk the present Rector of the Rectory and parish church of Ellingham and his successors for the time being Rectors of the said Rectory and to the present churchwardens and overseers of the poor of the said parish of Ellingham and their successors for the time being respectively being churchwardens and overseers of the parish in trust for the use and benefit of the poor persons residing in the said parish of Ellingham Twenty Acres of land in Ellingham (Then follows a long description of where the land is and whose land it abuts.) And we do hereby declare that we have caused the said allotment to be inclosed ditched and fenced on the East South East and to est (establish?) parts thereof and against the bounds of Geldestone by and at the expence of the several proprieters of estates in the said parish of Ellingham and we do hereby order that the same fences shall be maintained and kept in repair by the trustees of the said allotment for the time being for ever.”

Enclosure award 1

Enclosure award 2

Enclosure award 3

Enclosure award Poor's allotment

Enclosure Ellingham Mill


Kirby Cane Parish Council

The records for Kirby Cane Parish Council have now been located. They are at the Norfolk Record Office. Here is part of the opening page (remember to click on the picture to enlarge) and there will be more to follow as and when researchers can get to the Record Office.


Snippets from the records:

  • Regarding Parish Land and Allotment for the poor in Kirby Cane; the wording in the Enclosure Award is almost identical to that for Ellingham other than the identification of the Five Acres that lie down Newgate Lane.
  • The newly gained power of the Parish Council in 1894 was exercised by the Kirby Cane councillors in 1895 when the “Lower School Room” was “…taken over as Parish Property…” and would in future be called the “Parish Council Room” This was later sold.
  • Other Parish Property was again protected by the serving councillors in 1981 when a builder crossed the land by the bus shelter in order to build the bungalows there. The bus shelter belongs to the parish as does 40 feet of frontage at that point. A settlement was reached with the builder giving a right of way across the parish land for the sum of £300. The deeds to the bus shelter were deposited with the deeds to the Memorial Hall at the TSB in Bungay in 1986.
  • Recently (2009-14) there has been much discussion concerning what is now called “The Quarry” at Leet Hill. There has been controversy about planning approvals and the failure of quarry owners to meet planning deadlines and requirements. Here we can couple this with an entry from the minutes of Kirby Cane Parish Council in 1933: called then the “Parish Pit” it was sold for £30 being described as “practically useless”.
  • Here are a few pictures of “illuminated” pages by Mr Chirola the then Clerk to the Parish Council.







A few more snippets from the minute books of Kirby Cane Parish Council. These will be combined with those above eventually and a new page started for Kirby Cane on its own:


The new Parish Council for Kirby Cane met on Thursday 13th December 1894.


The new councillors were Robert Pilgrim, Benjamin Hinsley, Albert Osborne, James Westrip, James Morris, Joseph Harvey and Joseph Youell. Mr C G Kewball was elected Chairman, in his absence it seems.


At the second meeting of the council, held on Wednesday 16th January 1895, councillors discussed the matter of Kirby Cane Charities. A letter from Reverend Chapman, of Kirby cane, giving up the role of Chair of Kirby Cane Charities was read to the meeting. (More of this can be seen in the story of Kirby Cane Charities.)


On 17th April 1934 the Parish Pit (now Pallets quarry) was sold for £30 and the proceeds given to Kirby Cane Charity funds.


May 15th 1967 sees the mention of the deeds for the Memorial Hall being handed to Kirby Cane Parish Council. On 20th November that year the deed of appointment of new trustees for the Memorial Hall being handed over by Captain Simon Crisp. The Parish Council paid the bill for the preparation of the deed which was £7 17 shillings.


The first meeting to be held by Kirby Cane Parish Council in the Memorial Hall took place on Tuesday 16th April 1968.


Kirby Cane Parish Council minutes of March 1981 record the sale of a Right of Way over council land abutting the bus shelter. The council owns a 40 foot frontage at this point. The sale realised £300 plus solicitor’s costs. The deeds were signed at that meeting. Where are the deeds now we might ask? Also, why isn’t the 40 foot frontage listed on the Kirby Cane and Ellingham Parish Council Asset Register?

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